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This garbage is very old news....and for the record, just exactly where is the part of the brain that does all that.

What we know is that "creativity" in the brain is a part of being able to abstract and problem solve...which without education, becomes fantasy to include religion.

Religion is nothing more than fantasy to explain how things work, where we go when we died, etc.....but the smarter and more educated human beings have become, the less "fantasy" religion, and magic is a part of how one's brain works.

Note: The higher the IQ, the less the belief in a god or religion....

What we do know is that if the left temporal lobe is stimulated, the individual begins to see and hear things that are not there, the religious see god, angels etc, the nonreligious see UFOs, demons, beautiful creatures, etc.

If a part of the left brain is shut down by self hypnosis, drugs, electrical stimulation, etc. then the individuals sense of "time,place, and space" either become eliminated or distorted, so the person who has been brainwashed to believe there is a god, etc, thinks they are experiencing something greater than themselves, such as being in touch with a god. The nonreligious, think they are a part of the cosmos.

Therefore, we all have the genetics to engage in fantasy, but it has zero to do with proving there is a god...The ability to fantacize has created all kinds of gods, not just THE god of the xians and jews...but goats as god, fire as god, the sun as god, stones as gods, etc. all used to explain the unexplainable to the uneducated. Its that simple.

I am so very tired of the religious taking a little bit of information and turning it into junk science in a very weak, bogus attempt to prove there is a god. It just makes the religious sound and look, dumb, dumb, and dumber..

Furthermore, such attempts to create proof of a god out of nothing, proves again and again, the religious are stark raving mad and just down right silly.

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Subject: [A ChristianVsAtheist Club] Does 'Gene" believe in God?
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Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:50 AM

New Scientist Science in Society, Feb. 4, 2009

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............ ......... ........

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create a tendency for supernatural thinking. "There's now a lot of

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............ ......... .......

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[science-fiction] Secrets of the Milky Way are revealed

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January 7, 2009 - 8:11 AM
Secrets of the Milky Way are revealed
Image caption: The Milky Way as you've never seen it before (Zurich University)
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Astronomers map stars in Milky Way

A team of scientists, including one from Zurich University, has uncovered the true structure of the Milky Way using infrared technology.
The researchers were able to draw a complete map of the galaxy's unique spiral arms, confirming that there are four of the structures. The breakthrough could help other scientists engaged in the search for dark matter.

Until now, the centre of the Milky Way has evaded observation because it is obscured by clouds of dust. But the use of infrared light directed from a satellite enabled the team to peer behind the obstruction.

By lifting the curtain, the team could determine the exact distribution of stars and calculate the flow of gases to draw up a complete picture of the spiral arms. Two arms protrude from a central bar shaped mass of stars and each divides into two additional arms further away from the centre.

The scientists were also able to explain why one of the outer arms deviated from the expected course in a spiral galaxy. This has now been put down to the gravitational pull of the central bar structure.

The model also confirmed that core of the galaxy was symmetrical, as previously believed.

Dark matter hunt
Peter Englmaier of the institute of theoretical physics at Zurich University was one of the chief architects of the mapping process, along with Martin Pohl from Iowa State University and Nicolai Bissantz of Ruhr University in Bochum, Germany.

The team is in contact with scientists in France who could use the new map to track down and analyse the composition of the mysterious and invisible dark matter thought to make up much of the universe.

"Dark matter is thought to emit gamma rays as it decays. Scientists are trying to pinpoint dark matter in the Milky Way by tracking the distribution of these gamma rays," Englmaier told swissinfo.

"They can use our map to screen out what is being produced naturally from what is coming from dark matter."

The Milky Way, which contains our own solar system, is the most studied galaxy in the universe as others are too far away to observe accurately.

Scientists believe that studying our own galaxy could help interpret the structure and composition of others.

Collision course
A separate study by the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics has found that the Milky Way may be 15 per cent wider and contain 50 per cent more mass than previously thought.

The researchers were able to draw up a three dimensional map of the galaxy by calculating the position of stars at different points in the Earth's orbit around the sun.

They used the new information to calculate that the Milky Way is spinning around its centre at nearly 100,000 miles per hour faster than previously estimated. This would mean the Milky Way could crash into the neighbouring Andromeda galaxy sooner than expected.

But the predicted collision date is thought to be at least two to three billion years from now.

swissinfo, Matthew Allen in Zurich

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front/Secrets_of_the_Milky_Way_are_revealed.html?siteSect=108&sid=10165156&cKey=1231326760000&ty=st

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MILKY WAY
The Milky Way is one of billions of galaxies thought to exist in the known universe and contains our own star system.

The centre of the Milky Way is a disc with a central bulge dominated by a bar shaped formation of stars. Two spiral arms of stars stretch out from the bar and split into two further arms away from the core.

Scientists believe that the very centre of the galaxy is dominated by a massive black hole.

Our solar system, containing the Earth and the Sun, can be found on the galaxy's Orion arm. The Sun is situated about 25,000 light years from the galactic centre.

The Milky Way is a giant spiral galaxy located next to the Andromeda galaxy.

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INTERNATIONAL YEAR OF ASTRONOMY
More than 130 countries are celebrating 2009 as the International Year of Astronomy with events and activities designed to generate interest in the universe.

Launched by the International Astronomical Union and Unesco, the campaign officially begins with an opening ceremony in Paris on January 15-16.

For one event, groups in more than 30 countries at more than 150 venues will help amateur stargazers set up telescopes on pavements as well as in science centres to let passers-by observe the sun using special safety equipment.

Another project, 365 Days of Astronomy, will publish one podcast per day over the entire year. The episodes will be written, recorded and produced by people around the world.

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[science-fiction] Italian Antarctic meteorite haul. Biggest and oldest find ever, scientists say

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2008-11-18 16:34
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Biggest and oldest find ever, scientists say

(ANSA) - Florence, November 18 - Italian Antarctic explorers and geologists have found the world's largest and oldest haul of meteorite particles.

The group led by Pisa University's Luigi Folco have found some 1.35 million bits of space dust during an expedition in the Transantarctic Mountains which they say could shed new light on how life on Earth developed.

The discovery will enable scientists to trace meteorite showers dating to a million years ago, the oldest ever recorded.

Folco said the find promised ''many unusual things''.

''For example, we found particles present at a depth corresponding to around 480,000 years ago that document a catastrophic meteorite event that was hitherto unknown.

''What's more, the collection contains balls of Earth glass, or microtectites, half a millimetre in diameter, which come from a gigantic cosmic impact, also unknown, which probably took place in Indonesia, more than 1,000 km from the Transantarctic Mountains''.

Folco and his fellow geologists, Pierre Rochette of Aix-Marseille University and Natale Perchiazzi of Pisa University, also say many of the particles are ''gigantic'' compared to other finds and will permit ''tests that were impossible up till now''.

About a million of the particles are so-called micrometeorites, measuring less than 100 micrometers, while 3,500 are between 0.4 and 2 millimetres and known as macrometeorites.

The first kind were until now thought to come from comets and the second from asteroids but Folco says this distinction may now have to be revised.

The space particles have been taken to Siena University and the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in America. photo: samples of a meteorite found in Antarctica by US scientists in 2004

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